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27 February 2008 @ 12:05 am
Apparently I Love the Pain  

I was searching the internet for some good Kirk icons (and I found one! if only I knew who made it so I can credit), and I came across a Fan Forum thing on google that mentioned something about Kirk and Lulu's wedding. Of course, I was curious, and I had to see what that was about. And, of course, it just happened to be a discussion about VS8. So, I decided to go back to the beginning of the thread to see what the thoughts were of the entire season.

Big mistake.

I've always avoided Fan Forum in the past because I never got the right vibe from the people that posted from here. I'm sure there are other perfectly fantastic people that post there, but the stuff I came across was never positive. I found TWoP and it's a happy place for me. So, I was a little iffy reading the posts on there and I was right to be iffy. It's not that the comments were negative. I mean, they were negative, but I can handle negative comments. I welcome constructive criticism. But, these comments weren't remotely constructive. They were bitchy, and rude, and basically unforgiving. And I just sat there and read every single one of them, feeling worse after each one. Obviously, there was the occasional good comment, but they were few and far between and the people who posted the good comments and the constructive feedback got slammed for their understanding of the VS. 

And then I got to the posts that discussed episodes I was directly involved with and storylines I was directly responsible for and I started to take it personally. I'm a people pleaser by nature and when people aren't happy, I'm not happy. I always think there's something I can do to make it better and when I read all this, I just started feeling horrible. And I'm not usually like this. I'm an optimist. I can put a good spin on anything. But, ugh!!!

You know what it's like when you really want to make a comment, but know it will only make things worse if you do? That's how I felt all evening. 

I hate bitching. Really really hate it. I understand that there are people who are still bitter about the direction GG took and they will always be bitter. And there are other people that have certain expectations for this VS and will never be satisfied by what we do. I get that. I really do. And I also know that I am biased because I've been on the other side and I know what kind of work goes into story planning and writing and editing. I know what it's like to constantly be thinking up dialogue for a scene. I know what it's like to fall asleep on top of my laptop every night the week before the episode airs. I know what it's like to break googledocs :) I can't even imagine what it's like for the people who are in charge...

Sorry, I'm just frustrated. It really got to me and I don't know why. 

Well, I guess I do know why. Nobody likes it when you hear that the work you and your cowriters have done is considered boring, repetitive, and lacking in creativity every other post. And I certainly didn't like to hear that people found Kirk getting married in the diner was ridiculous and the lowest form of low for GG. Then, there was the bitching about Rory's storyline... Ok, I'll stop. I don't want to think about it anymore. I feels good to type my feelings out, though.

Thanks to my Whimsy friends, I'm feeling a little better (and thanks again Filo, Ina, Taryn, and Riv for letting me vent). Yes, I stand by the fact that TWoP is a happy place. I know the good comments and reviews far outweigh the bad. I guess I was just shocked to hear that people hated VS8 so much. I haven't actively searched out comments outside of lj, TWoP, and facebook, so to accidently come across it today was disheartening. 

Sigh...rant over. I feel better now, I swear. Just needed to get that out of my system.

Moral of the story: Trust my gut and never venture over to Fan Forum again. 

Oh, and hey, isn't my Kirk icon really appropriate after that?

Current Mood: predatorypredatory
Current Music: "Drunk E-mails"--Small Sins
Filofilo77 on February 27th, 2008 09:16 am (UTC)
I'm glad you were able to vent and get it out of your system. What I couldn't get was how they were all bashing the season but still kept on reading. That's why I've pretty much stuck around TWoP. While there is major criticism of the show, you can tell the people posting do really like it. And they are all also really appreciative of all fic writers, and are kind enough not to criticize the fics they don't like.

On the bright side, that Kirk icon is hilarious!
robinpoppins: GG: Paul Ankarobinpoppins on February 27th, 2008 09:43 am (UTC)
Yeah, I don't get why they kept reading either. Just strange all around.

I love my new Kirk icon. It makes me laugh and laugh. Oh, Kirk as the town whore is a glorious sight, and that quote? Priceless!
jenepel: BTVS: Willow and Buffy hugjenepel on February 27th, 2008 11:26 am (UTC)
Aw. sweetie! Big hugs.

I've been there - I mean literally, I've been to that exact fan forum thread. Way back when (first four eps or so) I used to read it and inwardly rant. I had to stop myself, because the comments seemed to be getting progressively worse with each episode. I've managed not to go back since then, but it pulls at me - it's like that whole "can't look away" syndrome with car accidents. I know that everyone has a right to their own opinion, and of course we don't think our season is perfect. In fact I think we've been pretty welcoming of constructive criticism. But I just don't understand why people want to put that amount of vitriol out into the world.

They must be having a field day with our delay this week!
robinpoppins: GG: Lorelai and Roryrobinpoppins on February 27th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it is like the "can't look away" syndrome. I think that's why I sat there and read 20 pages worth of notes. I think the thing that makes me really smad is when they put words in our mouths. Like, a lot of the comments people made were "The purpose of this VS is closure! And they aren't giving it to us!" Hello, have you visited the website at all? Ugh!!!

It's one thing to not like it and express your opinion about it. I get that. But, most of those comments are very hateful and it makes me sad.

Ok, no more ranting. I'm really done this time, I swear.
Adina: Paris and Roryadinarj on February 27th, 2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
Then, there was the bitching about Rory's storyline...
Like the fact that she has one? That's the biggest thing that bothers me. (Bothers me that people bitch about that. It doesn't bother me that Rory has a storyline. Just to be clear.)

I went on fanforum briefly a few years ago, and left quickly because there was no discussion. Everyone just chatted with each other and asked how their day was, and occasionally contemplated who was hotter: Matt, Milo, or Chad. *eyeroll* (I may or may not find some or all of these guys attractive or hot but I have more to say than just that.)

People don't like it because it wasn't what they wanted. They say they wanted an eighth season, but they didn't really want one with the same feel as the show. The people who understand what we're going for might not love every single bit of it, and that's okay. They get it, and they're mostly enjoying it because they enjoyed the show.

Don't let stupid people and bitterness get you down. *hugs*

Edited at 2008-02-27 12:38 pm (UTC)
robinpoppins: GG: LL dinerrobinpoppins on February 27th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
The Rory comments made me angry (well, it was one of the many things that made me angry) because we worked so hard to give Rory a great storyline this year. And, I've never written Rory before, so I put a lot of work into the Rory scenes I wrote and it's sad when someone says they just skimmed it because "Rory is boring." And, what's worse, they disliked the Rory storyline, and the Sookie/Lane/Michel/townie storyline, because they claim it's taking screen time away from Luke and Lorelai. This is not the Luke and Lorelai show, damn it!

Haha, ok, sorry. I really need to stop being smad about it. Thanks for cheering me up.
ಌ: LLHH.flatters on February 27th, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
I just watched that episode last night!!!! And the episode from my icon. I just finished this morning. I will be comepletely done with Gilmore girls by Saturday. I am such a freak.
robinpoppins: GG: Lorelai & Roryrobinpoppins on February 27th, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC)
You may be a freak, but I couldn't be prouder :) Are you skipping S6?
ಌ: LLKISSflatters on February 28th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
No matter how awful season 6 is/is going to be, I still can't just skip over it! Girlfriend, I will be done by Saturday WITHOUT having to skip season 6. I finished a whole season in one day. And yes, it was a school day. I just never went to bed. But still, I have ways. Danae is thinking about getting me studied at MIT. For what IDK.
robinpoppins: GG: LL Loverobinpoppins on February 28th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
Now, see, this is why I love you :) I admire anyone who can zip through The Office and 7 seasons of GG just like you did, and even skip out on sleep.